[DISCUSSION] New Line Up 2014 ?

with 2 years with no line up change, AS is on the edge of having one maybe on the next korean comeback. Who will graduate and what type of member will be admitted?

I know for a lot of us the graduation system is hard to get used to it because it's like a balloon popping in your face, it's always unexpected and you are not sure if your bias is leaving D:

I have this weird feeling that Uee is graduating, I mean she's been missing way to much appearance with AS, she's not even mention in one screenshot of this japanese magazine where they presented all the members, I know she's busy with her drama, but to miss all those events: gayo daejun, Shh release, I mean it's big! Anyways we'll only know when they are going to comeback.

As for what new member, a new maknae please but with a edgy style aura that bekah, that can rap like lime, I always thought that lime from HV would have been a perfect candidate!

umiboshy wrote:I have this weird feeling that Uee is graduating, I mean she's been missing way to much appearance with AS, she's not even mention in one screenshot of this japanese magazine where they presented all the members...

Actually that's a good point. UEE has been missing from previous promotions before, but it does make logical sense that she be the next to graduate, because of her heavy commitment (and interest) in acting. If we say that people graduate from After School because they're ready to go elsewhere, then Bekah (designing), Kahi (solo), and now UEE (acting) would be a good reason to leave.

umiboshy wrote:As for what new member, a new maknae please but with a edgy style aura that bekah, that can rap like lime, I always thought that lime from HV would have been a perfect candidate!

After School's songs have focused heavily on the vocal line recently. The addition of Kaeun just seems to reinforce that. I don't know whether they want to return to the sassy kind of image with the addition of a rapper. Their current line-up seems to edge towards the elegant side, though their younger members seem like they could form a decent rocker-chick kind of sub-unit on their own.

umiboshy wrote:
I have this weird feeling that Uee is graduating, I mean she's been missing way to much appearance with AS, she's not even mention in one screenshot of this japanese magazine where they presented all the members, I know she's busy with her drama, but to miss all those events: gayo daejun, Shh release, I mean it's big! Anyways we'll only know when they are going to comeback.

Uee has explicitly said she isn't leaving in an interview, so I doubt it's her.

I think Jungah will be the next too go (a sad day! ;_.

I rather see two new additions or one than someone graduating.

I still think that Uee should stay more, she's not the only one's who's missed promotions more than once.

Maybe she should remain until breaking through the weekend dramas spot, and gaining more consistence as an actress, getting real romance drama roles (weekly ones) as well as movie roles.

I hope that no-one leaves tbh. I'd like them to stay as they are because it just works for me the current lineup.

If anyone was to go I would say Uee though. I know that she said that she wouldn't, I still think she is most likely out of them all. She has a bigger career outside AS than the rest, I feel like the others need AS more than she does.

BTW when I said I had a feeling that uee is leaving, I'm not hoping it, it's just an intuition because yes in the past she has missed some promotion with the girls, but eversince barefoot friend and golden rainbow she's been less and less active, im not saying its a 100% fact but like bekah when she graduated she faded away slowly going back to hawaii and not making appearance at their japanese release( make it happen - namie amuro + samantha thavasa, etc.) she came back briefly for shampoo and then she left. so maybe Uee is trying the same thing but subtlely, again not saying it fact, but to me she seems to be more focused on other stuff than After School, but I still love her , Ill really miss whoever leaves now, they seem closer and stronger eer since flashback.

Ditto, I would prefer someone being admitted than someone leaving but pledis is always full of suprise so we'll only know until next comeback!

Btw what happened to pre school girl Nicole, Ive briefly heard about her but not sure what happened?!

I don't get why people are saying Uee when she's the one who has said "I'm not going anywhere"?

#gradUEE

If Uee graduates, it won't be a bad thing. We hardly ever see her, plus she has a pretty stable acting career. I'm not saying that I wish she would graduate but I'm saying that if she graduates it would benefit her more.

Well right now it's more likely that either Jungah or Jooyeon will graduate before Uee does (I think it'll be Jungah).

Guys pls. Uee said she won't be leaving, so it's not her. As for JungAh, she's not leaving so soon imo. I mean, she just became the leader of the group, so I think she still has a lot to do before thinking of graduating. Honestly I can see a good reason for her wanting to leave because of the exhausting concepts and schedules plus her lack of stamina, but It's not that likely to happen within this year or the next one. that being said I place my bets on jupal okay no hatin' tho

The only reason I don't see UEE leaving anytime soon is b/c she's arguably the most widely popular member in Korea, though Nana might be catching up. And she surely earns the most out of the group. Regardless of what she says, I doubt Pledis would give up publicity of "After School's UEE" when AS is considered low in the girl group tier or whatever that ridiculous ranking is. So I guess if I were to predict who will graduate next it would be Jungah

umiboshy wrote:Btw what happened to pre school girl Nicole, Ive briefly heard about her but not sure what happened?!

As for this I believe I read somewhere that she's no longer a trainee b/c she was unhappy with being passed over for debuting (but don't quote me on that)

It seriously makes me so sad just thinking about anyone graduation or joining for that matter! It was really hard adjusting after Kahi and Bekah graduated, but I really grew attached to this line-up.

I don't think anyone will be graduating anytime soon, but the next to graduate would probably be either Uee or Jungah.
Uee just seems so busy with acting these days you rarely see her in performances and appearances with AS these days:( The bad thing is that she is one of the most popular members and that could really hurt AS.
Jungah might be next to go because she is the oldest, and she might want to do something else with her life next and might want to take a step in a different direction in life.

(Long post, you have been warned…)

I hope no one leaves, this is the best lineup so far. I don’t want Uee to graduate, sure she is missing a lot of promotions but at the same time she is a great rapper and good in A.S. I want her to stay a member for as long as she can / whishes. Whenever she, or any other member is missing I think the other members are doing a good job at covering for them. Nana is also a busy member but still I don’t see people wanting her to graduate. It is just the way it goes, some girls will be more busy and popular but I don’t think that is a reason for them to leave A.S. So far the girls are good at multi-tasking.

I do see Junah graduating in 2015, she feels really maternal to me and I honestly think that she would want a family of her own one day and I think that day is approaching fast. But that may just be me who has gotten her personality wrong. Either way she is a top bias for me and having here leave would be devastating for me…

I do however see two possible graduates. The first one is Jooyeon. When I got in to A.S. she did not grab my attention that much. Now she is my 2nd favorite, at a tie with Jungah. I find myself loving Jooyeon more and more every time I hear her voice. It is really special and she is actually a great rapper. She has this distinctive quality to her voice that I really like. Her personality is great and I feel so sad knowing that she is an original and yet is in the background. I fear that she might leave because of it and then A.S. will feel so empty without her.

The second graduate that I can see will surprise all of you… I think it will be E-young. I know what you are thinking, she just got added and so on. But I often think about how talented she is, and how wrong her position in A.S. is. My heart would break if she leaves After School. But at the same time my heart breaks a bit every time I see her acting as a background dancer.

In the new version of B.O.Y everyone except her got a line. Even Jooyeon who usually does not sing that much does not gets to rap. Kaeun got the line straight away even tough Lizzy had to go years without a line and E-young does not have one at all. I am not blaming Kaeun at all tough, she is epic and I am really pleased that she was added to A.S. But the worst part was that in a few of their lives of Diva during 2013 E-young’s only line was given back to Jooyeon and I know for sure that there was one performance of Diva where she did not sing at all. The same goes for Love Love Love. It is really rough seeing her in the back after years.

I sometimes like to think about what it would have been like if YooAra won, would E-young have been the leader of HV then? Probably not but it is still something I think about. Her vocals are better than many think, her dance skills are insane and she is a musical progeny. If she would graduate I would seriously consider stopping listening to k-pop entirely just for her. But at the same time I don’t want her to go to waste.

This got ridiculously long, especially for my first post on the forum. If anyone read this far then I applaud you. But to be honest, I hope no one graduates in 2014. I hope 2014 will be the best year to be a playgirl / playboy and the best year ever for After School! And as for new members? Maybe when others have graduated first. Sorry this was so long, it almost bacame an essay!   

I don't think it would be E-Young, she still needs a lot of polishing in order to go solo, polishing she'd probably wouldn't get if she graduated and trained for a year. You get a different experience and training when you're already debuted. AS took that idea from Japanese groups like AKB48 the most. Nowadays MoMusu is quite similar, but they always seek for already good potential vocalists at last. The group wasn't that much about dancing but singing in the beginning. Love Machine was probably the single that changed them and their style forever (it was also kind of going with the trends back then). So nowadays, most of these Japanese idol groups serve as a place were young and teen girls can get an experience and polish their skills for a future. There are exceptions, of course, because there are different types of idol groups, but AS is kind of like these first ones I mentioned.

E-Young is still too shy, lacks some stage presence sometimes, thought she's corrected a lot ever since Flashback, her vocals are still unstable live, etc. And more important than that: she also says constantly her music skills are also unpolished, she's still training her guitar skills, as well as she's trying to become a composer.

I believe she will leave when she's at least 2 years older and more experienced. Now Kaeun is there and they're often sold as a package, she helps her a little in pushing her further, their interactions helped her to become more known for the rest of the audience.

And no, I don't think she'd became HV's leader, not even sure if she'd entered that group or became an AS member after Yoo Ara. These are things we'd never know.

OKDR wrote:I don't think it would be E-Young, she still needs a lot of polishing in order to go solo, polishing she'd probably wouldn't get if she graduated and trained for a year. You get a different experience and training when you're already debuted. AS took that idea from Japanese groups like AKB48 the most. Nowadays MoMusu is quite similar, but they always seek for already good potential vocalists at last. The group wasn't that much about dancing but singing in the beginning. Love Machine was probably the single that changed them and their style forever (it was also kind of going with the trends back then). So nowadays, most of these Japanese idol groups serve as a place were young and teen girls can get an experience and polish their skills for a future. There are exceptions, of course, because there are different types of idol groups, but AS is kind of like these first ones I mentioned.

E-Young is still too shy, lacks some stage presence sometimes, thought she's corrected a lot ever since Flashback, her vocals are still unstable live, etc. And more important than that: she also says constantly her music skills are also unpolished, she's still training her guitar skills, as well as she's trying to become a composer.

I believe she will leave when she's at least 2 years older and more experienced. Now Kaeun is there and they're often sold as a package, she helps her a little in pushing her further, their interactions helped her to become more known for the rest of the audience.

And no, I don't think she'd became HV's leader, not even sure if she'd entered that group or became an AS member after Yoo Ara. These are things we'd never know.

I agree. I think people get a bit over the top with what they imagine happening to members when they graduate. The amount that would be suitable for a solo would be very, very small (especially considering how Kahi's solo went and the fact that she was basically born to shine as a solo star). There's no was Pledis would randomly invest money in every graduate's solo.

True true, I think Nana will be the next leader because I don't see anyone graduaating right now. But maybe in 2015 Nana will be the leader and if A.S. is still around in 2018 then I think E-young might be the leader. I am thinking really long ahead and I am aware of that. But at the same time I think A.S. allowes you to do so since new members will be added and the group will still be relevant.

I don't think she would have been the leader of HV either compared to the competition. But I would like her as a leader one day, as she can compose and write lyrics. She could perhaps bring the group some intresting pices. I did enjoy "Time's Up" even tough it might have been better suited for the "Flashback" album to go alon with Raina's "Wristwatch."
I think she will improve though, it is odd because in aucustic songs she is more stable when singing live. Oh well, she has time to work on that and I do think she did a good job during the early parts of 2012 so she is promising. Maybe when she graduates school then she can focus more on perfecting all her skills. Honestly, I do think everyone would forget about E-young except me if she graduated, but still, she has so many skills and I don't know if she has the time to do both school, improve and stay in After School.

Jooyeon or Jungah are the next to leave after school. Uee is the most popular & active member and she's young (25 years) ! If Uee graduate it means a kick in front of After school. And some people think Nana is more popular but it's not true Nana is only more popular in Japan.

hey guys :)I ha-te the idea of any of the girls leaving:/  I believe this current line up Is THE best! I am not saying It's a good thing that Kahi or Bekah left,  I love them both and they had their unique spot in the group that no other member can fill in. Yet It seems the members are much more united and mature ever since Flashback. In fact it seems like Ka-Eun was there forever, I love how close she is to her older onnies.
That's why I wish Pledis will not add anyone any time soon, we understand and accept  the concept of adding and graduating members but it doesn't necessarily mean that every Korean comeback should have someone new or someone should leave.
As for Uie leaving, I have to disagree. There is no way Pledis would let go Of "After School's Uee". I love all the girls and please don't get me wrong but I believe she has the most commitment to AS . She can easily go as Kim Yu Jin or just Uie the actress, like other popular idols do. In order to establish a solid base for their acting careers they introduce themselves with their real names without mentioning the groups they belong to. But it's not the case for Uie. She promotes AS with every chance she gets. Even in interviews for GR she always says: "Hello it's AFTERSCHOOL's Uee".  And believe me a lot of fans came to know After School cuz of her, including me.
Plus Koreans love her more and more after each of her dramas and after BBF, they grew fond of her, as she was very polite and caring towards the other BFF members and ate well. Not to mention the rumor of her and Kim Hyun Joong dating earned her(and AS) the support of his fans. What I am trying to say is although she is not active with AS right now I believe Pledis just tries to not overwork her. During all her previous dramas she always became VERY thin after the drama ended due to promoting with AS and shooting the drama at the same  time. But this time that didn't happen since she focused on 1 thing . She appeared just couple of minutes in the Beauty Bible, but look at the posters, she is in the center and the main focus is on her.
That said, I believe Pledis is Ok with not having her in Japan, since they have Nana there, who is VERY popular (and Juyeon, Lizzy and Kaeun are getting more recognition too). That why I am not surprised, she missed all of the performances and promotions.
I strongly believe that no one will graduate any time soon. Whoever leaves it would just make them start everything from the beginning once again. How are they going to do pole art? The new member has to learn all their past performances plus pole art. It 's pretty difficult.
I am keeping my fingers crossed for a strong Korean comeback, but I don't believe they will be back this April. I feel it 's going to be in June like First Love and Flash back :/

Pre-school girls already train learning the SP routines. Ara and Yoonjo explained they did learn the whole drumline while being pre-school girls so I guess it's the same for the rest of SP routines.

I don't want JungAh or Jooyeon to graduate simply for the fact that they are the founding members of AS but I feel that JooYeon would be next to 'choose' graduation.... Seems Pledis is probably wanting to oust the older members. Uee claims that she'd never graduate and, to be honest, I doubt Pledis is in a rush as she's been starring in hit dramas and getting those CF deals which brings attention to AS.

Well remember that it's the member that chooses to graduate, pledis has something to do with it but mostly it depends on the members will and desire to graduate. Even if Uee said she don't want to graduate, there's something fishy behind all her absence, but I might be wrong and she might be overbooked with her appearance, model,CF and drama.

Don't forget the main purpose of the discussion, who's most likely to graduated next but also what kind of member you would like to be admitted, what would be the best candidate to AS in the pre schooler, what would be their asset?

I hope it is either Uee or Orange Caramel.

I'm sorry but Uee didn't grown as much as a singer to the group. And like it said on other topics already, she likes more to be an actress than to be in a girl group.

And Orange Caramel are more like a proper group now than a sub-unit of After School.
And i am tired of hearing Raina's voice in every chorus in After School's songs. She sounds worse and worse each comeback.



And by the way, we need another rapper in the group. Their Engrish is horrible and i don't wanna hear that anymore. Of course as long as they debut a new rapper with good English skills.

PrinceX wrote:I hope it is either Uee or Orange Caramel.

LOL you picked the most popular members of After School, I reckon you and me are going to be the 2 most hated members of this forum or fandom.

PrinceX wrote:I'm sorry but Uee didn't grown as much as a singer to the group.

It hurts to admit it but that's true. I remember Nana mentioning seeing UEE practising her vocals alone....and my impression was that Nana also agrees with you. Still I hope UEE doesn't graduate any time soon. UEE is loyal to AS and a hard worker and that means a lot to me.

PrinceX wrote:And like it said on other topics already, she likes more to be an actress than to be in a girl group.

There's multiple cases where UEE has shown how proud she is to be part of After School and because of that I'm proud to have her in After School regardless of how little she contributes vocally or performance wise to the group.

PrinceX wrote:And Orange Caramel are more like a proper group now than a sub-unit of After School.

True, but I personally don't want Orange Caramel to graduate. Orange Caramel contributes a lot to After School both in terms of gaining more fans and vocally.

PrinceX wrote:And i am tired of hearing Raina's voice in every chorus in After School's songs. She sounds worse and worse each comeback.

I still love Raina's  voice and I think she sounds fine  

PrinceX wrote:And by the way, we need another rapper in the group. Their Engrish is horrible and i don't wanna hear that anymore. Of course as long as they debut a new rapper with good English skills.

I definitely agree that their Engrish is horrible(maybe except Lizzy's). I've seen Raina's English improve on The Perfect Singer so there's hope. What they need is someone fluent in English to check their English or teach them English. I would like to see a new rapper debut that's got good English skills too. But I'm not ready for the member line up to change. What I want is stability. If they need a rapper I hope the borrow Lime from Hello Venus instead of adding a new member.

PlayboyzAdam wrote:
LOL you picked the most popular members of After School, I reckon you and me are going to be the 2 most hated members of this forum or fandom.

I can live with that.
And we know that if someones Graduate from the group, one of these options needs to happen.

PrinceX wrote:
There's multiple cases where UEE has shown how proud she is to be part of After School and because of that I'm proud to have her in After School regardless of how little she contributes vocally or performance wise to the group.

Ok...

PrinceX wrote:
True, but I personally don't want Orange Caramel to graduate. Orange Caramel contributes a lot to After School both in terms of gaining more fans and vocally.

Not if we get a new sub unit group with Kaeun and E-young.

PrinceX wrote:
I still love Raina's  voice and I think she sounds fine  

PrinceX wrote:
If they need a rapper I hope the borrow Lime from Hello Venus instead of adding a new member.