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Post by PlayboyzAdam on Sun Mar 13, 2016 12:42 pm

Project to Save Pledis Girls

EDIT: see bottom of post for new plan to help Pledis girls

Pledis girl trainees are currently partaking in Mnets Produce 101, an elimination style program aimed at finding the top 11 trainees amongst 101 trainee coming from several companies.
2 out of the 7 Pledis girls have already been eliminated from the last episode. I'm creating this project to call on all Pledis fandoms(Playgirlz/Playboyz, L.O.Λ.E and Carats) to help Pledis girls win or at least make it to the last episode.

So why is it important to help the Pledis girls out?

One simple reason is that having the Pledis girls win or stay in the show for as long as possible helps fund comebacks for other Pledis acts and another benifit from helping the Pledis girls out with this project is that it's good practice for collaboration between the different Pledis fandoms so that we can improve cooperation to help Pledis acts when they have comeback so they can win awards.
The more Pledis girls we can get to win or to the final, the more beneficial it'll be to all Pledis fandoms.
For me personally, I'll like the Pledis girls to be on the show for as long as possible so I can get to know them better because one day, some of those girls could join After School.


So does Pledis girls have a chance of winning?

Let's take a look at the rankings from this week Friday's episode:

#1 Kim Sejeong(1,473,658 votes)
#2 Choi Yoojung(1,286,477 votes)
#3 Kang Mina(1,212,720 votes)
#4 Jeon Somi(1,201,490 votes)
#5 Kim Nayoung(931,084 votes)
#6 Pinky(885,556 votes)
#7 Kim Doyeon(841,749 votes)
#8 Kim Sohye(833,101 votes)
#9 Jung Chaeyon(696,808 votes)
#10 Yu Yeonjung(684,660 votes)
#11 Im Nayoung(665,898 votes)
#17 Jung Eunwoo(438,879 votes)
#20 Park Siyeon(372,295 votes)
#32 Kang Yebin(205,556 votes)

So far we can only be sure that Pinky will be part of the final top 11 and Nayoung(our one at #11) has a pretty good chance as well. But the plan here is to get all the Pledis girls within the top 11 and as for can this be done? I believe the answer is yes but the truth is it really depends on how much people are willing to participate.
According to my memory there are only 11 episode of Produce 101 so that means means 4 more episodes to go until the show ends. I think after episode 10 airs, that will be our final week we can vote but to be safe I think we should assume after episode 9 is our final week  that we can vote and it doesn't hurt to have an extra week in case something is wrong and we need a change of plan. That leave us with 12 day to put something in action to ensure all the Pledis girls make it to the top 11 or at least the finals.

My plan is this, by the final week of voting, we'll have 33333 participant collaborating on this project voting for each of the Pledis girls at least 30 times a day(takes about an hour) so withing 5 days of that we can be sure that all the Pledis girls(assuming none gets eliminated) will have at least 1,000,000 votes giving them a good chance of being within the top 11.
There's no guarantee that the remaining Pledis girls will make it past the next elimination so if possible what I've mention needs needs to be started now to get as much votes for the Pledis girls as possible.

(See bottom of post for update plan)Here are the minimal things that needs to be done to ensure the plan to succeed.

1) Create at least 15 email addresses(gmail, hotmail, yahoo etc). Email services usually only allow a certain about of email to be created per day per IP so you may need to us a different network(e.g. internet from local library) to create more email accounts or do it over multiple days.

2) For each of the email addresses you have, create a twitter account as well as a face book account. The same phone number can be use to receive the confirmation code of multiple twitter and facebook accounts during the registration of those accounts.

3) For each of the twitter and face book accounts you have, register those accounts with Mnet if you haven't done it yet. See step 5 in http://afterschooldaze.forumotion.com/t467-discussion-how-to-vote-for-pledis-girls-on-produce-101 for how to register facebook and twitter with Mnet. You now have 30 accounts you can vote with.

4) Use all 30 accounts to vote for Pledis girls each day. ladyteenintl is already making a project to vote for a specific girl on a specifc day and I want to collaborate with them but for now to make things simple I'm proposing that we decided who to vote for on which day base on their ranking they attain form this this week. For example, from now on we will always vote for Pinky on the first voting day and then on the day after that we will always vote for Nayoung and so on. See http://afterschooldaze.forumotion.com/t467-discussion-how-to-vote-for-pledis-girls-on-produce-101 for tutorial on how to vote for Pledis girls.

5) Get at least 33333 participants by encouraging fans from all Pledis fandoms to help out.

Tasks 1 to 4 is definitely achievable within 12 day but is extremely hard to do all it all in one day(although the 30 votes a day will be pretty tiring). If you have time, do as much as you can from tasks 1 to 4 each day starting from now. Task 5 is the hardest task,  from this petition https://www.change.org/p/pledis-entertainment-give-after-school-a-comeback-in-2016?recruiter=459447770&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=share_twitter_responsive it would seem like there is at least 6,546 active Playgirlz/Playboyz but we need 5 times that amount of participants for our goal.

In order to coordinate the project and determine whether what we are currently doing is the best course of action or to determine the best course of action when circumstances change, we need actual data on our progress e.g. how much people are participating, how much people are still voting but are not participating in this project. How much votes each of the Pledis girls got on each day from this project. In order to gather all this data. Please participate in each of these poll. The following polls are done by liking a tweet for each of the poll(DO NOT RETWEET ONLY LIKE THE TWEET). If you need to update or correct a choice for a poll, first unlike the choice that you have currently selected and then like the updated one.

EDIT: The last 2 poll only have options from 1 to 30 but if you have more than 30 accounts or if you have voted more than 30 times. Use one twitter account to like the 30 option and then you another email account the select the option for the remaining amount that wasn't selected e.g. I've voted for Pinky 53 times today so I select the 30 vote option using my AdamFJH twitter account and then I used my PlayboyzForever account to select the 23 vote option so that it'll total to 53 votes.


Poll 1. Are you participating in this project?

Like this tweet if you are participating in this project https://twitter.com/PlayboyzForever/status/708718731296432129


Poll 2. You are not participating in this project but still voting for Pledis girls.

Like this tweet if you are not participating in this project but am still voting for Pledis girls https://twitter.com/PlayboyzForever/status/708719245190770689


Poll 3. How much Twitter and Facebook accounts do you have to vote with. You also needs to update this poll after you create more Twitter and/or facebook accounts that'll be used for voting.


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If you only have a total 1 then like this tweet https://twitter.com/PlayboyzForever/status/708710598519820288

If you have a total of 2 then like this tweet https://twitter.com/PlayboyzForever/status/708711010568241152

If you have a total of 3 then like this tweet https://twitter.com/PlayboyzForever/status/708711349040209922

If you have a total of 4 then like this tweet https://twitter.com/PlayboyzForever/status/708712106632151040

If you have a total of 5 then like this tweet https://twitter.com/PlayboyzForever/status/708712228636090368

If you have a total of 6 then like this tweet https://twitter.com/PlayboyzForever/status/708712391479963649

If you have a total of 7 then like this tweet https://twitter.com/PlayboyzForever/status/708713759926190080

If you have a total of 8 then like this tweet https://twitter.com/PlayboyzForever/status/708713921452986368

If you have a total of 9 then like this tweet https://twitter.com/PlayboyzForever/status/708713953078018048

If you have a total of 10 then like this tweet https://twitter.com/PlayboyzForever/status/708713985114157056

If you have a total of 11 then like this tweet https://twitter.com/PlayboyzForever/status/708714025450799104

If you have a total of 12 then like this tweet https://twitter.com/PlayboyzForever/status/708714061962158080

If you have a total of 13 then like this tweet https://twitter.com/PlayboyzForever/status/708714126957121536

If you have a total of 14 then like this tweet https://twitter.com/PlayboyzForever/status/708714158875783168

If you have a total of 15 then like this tweet https://twitter.com/PlayboyzForever/status/708714197106855936

If you have a total of 16 then like this tweet https://twitter.com/PlayboyzForever/status/708714418763239424

If you have a total of 17 then like this tweet https://twitter.com/PlayboyzForever/status/708714457468284928

If you have a total of 18 then like this tweet https://twitter.com/PlayboyzForever/status/708714497779695617

If you have a total of 19 then like this tweet https://twitter.com/PlayboyzForever/status/708714533339025409

If you have a total of 20 then like this tweet https://twitter.com/PlayboyzForever/status/708714579740655616

If you have a total of 21 then like this tweet https://twitter.com/PlayboyzForever/status/708714641229123584

If you have a total of 22 then like this tweet https://twitter.com/PlayboyzForever/status/708714669964283904

If you have a total of 23 then like this tweet https://twitter.com/PlayboyzForever/status/708714714537197568

If you have a total of 24 then like this tweet https://twitter.com/PlayboyzForever/status/708714789095079937

If you have a total of 25 then like this tweet https://twitter.com/PlayboyzForever/status/708714855683895296

If you have a total of 26 then like this tweet https://twitter.com/PlayboyzForever/status/708714888961458178

If you have a total of 27 then like this tweet https://twitter.com/PlayboyzForever/status/708714928765476864

If you have a total of 28 then like this tweet https://twitter.com/PlayboyzForever/status/708714972214222848

If you have a total of 29 then like this tweet https://twitter.com/PlayboyzForever/status/708715045501280257

If you have a total of 30 then like this tweet https://twitter.com/PlayboyzForever/status/708715088979492864


(CLOSED)Poll 4. How much times have you voted for Pinking on this voting day i.e. 09:00 am (KST) 13/03/2016 to 08:59 am (KST) 14/03/2016? I know that the times written in the tweets are wrong but that doesn't matter.

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This poll is now closed.
Pinky receive a total of 56 votes for this voting day from this project.

P.S. Normally I'll make a propose to discus with fans before acting it out but all this needs to be done right, we can discus changes to the plan as required while we are doing this now. Also I know that not everyone can participate in all the task because of commitemts(e.g. school, job or just too tired to do anything after a long day at work) but I hope you can at least help spread this to other fans and encourage them to help our Pledis girls.

(CLOSED)Poll 5. How much times have you voted for Nayoung on this voting day i.e. 09:00 am (KST) 14/03/2016 to 08:59 am (KST) 15/03/2016?

Click to view choices:

This poll is now closed.
Nayoung receive a total of 57 votes for this voting day from this project.


(CLOSED)Poll 6. How much times have you voted for Eunwoo on this voting day i.e. 09:00 am KST 15/03/2016 to 08:59 am KST 16/03/2016?

Click to view choices:

This poll is now closed.
Eunwoo receive a total of 57 votes for this voting day from this project.

(CLOSED)Poll 7. How much times have you voted for Siyeon on this voting day i.e. 09:00 am KST 16/03/2016 to 08:59 am KST 17/03/2016?

Click to view choices:

This poll is now closed.
Siyeon receive a total of 57 votes for this voting day from this project.

(CLOSED)Poll 8. How much times have you voted for Yebin on this voting day i.e. 09:00 am KST 17/03/2016 to 08:59 am KST 18/03/2016?

Click to view choices:

This poll is now closed.
Yebin receive a total of 57 votes for this voting day from this project.


(CLOSED)Poll 9. How much times have you voted for Yebin on this voting day i.e. 09:00 am KST 18/03/2016 to 08:59 am KST 19/03/2016?

Click to view choices:

This poll is now closed.
Yebin receive a total of 22 votes for this voting day from this project.


(CLOSED)Poll 10. How much times have you voted for Siyeon on this voting day i.e. 09:00 am KST 18/03/2016 to 08:59 am KST 19/03/2016?

Click to view choices:

This poll is now closed.
Siyeon receive a total of 22 votes for this voting day from this project.


(CLOSED)Poll 11. How much times have you voted for Eunwoo on this voting day i.e. 09:00 am KST 18/03/2016 to 08:59 am KST 19/03/2016?

Click to view choices:

This poll is now closed.
Eunwoo receive a total of 22 votes for this voting day from this project.

(CLOSED)Poll 12. How much times have you voted for Pinky on this voting day i.e. 09:00 am KST 26/03/2016 to 08:59 am KST 27/03/2016?

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This poll is now closed.

(CLOSED)Poll 13. How much times have you voted for Nayoung on this voting day i.e. 09:00 am KST 27/03/2016 to 08:59 am KST 28/03/2016?

Click to view choices:

This poll is now closed.

(CLOSED)Poll 14. How much times have you voted for Eunwoo on this voting day i.e. 09:00 am KST 28/03/2016 to 08:59 am KST 29/03/2016?

Click to view choices:

This poll is now closed.

(CLOSED)Poll 15. How much times have you voted for Pinky on this voting day i.e. 09:00 am KST 29/03/2016 to 08:59 am KST 30/03/2016?

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This poll is now closed.


(CLOSED)Poll 16. How much times have you voted for Nayoung on this voting day i.e. 09:00 am KST 30/03/2016 to 08:59 am KST 31/03/2016?

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This poll is now closed.

(CLOSED)Poll 17. How much times have you voted for Eunwoo on this voting day i.e. 09:00 am KST 31/03/2016 to 10:59 am KST 01/04/2016?

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This poll is now closed.


To ASDaze,

If you can make this an official ASDaze project and promote it under ASDaze's name that will be very helpful but I understand how busy ASDaze admins are so I understand if it can't be done Smile

UPDATE: Here are the minimal things that needs to be done for the next plan(26th March to 1st April).

1) Have/create a minimum of 4 email addresses.
2) Create a minimum of 4 facebook or twitter accounts.
3) For each of those 4 twitter and face book accounts you have, register those accounts with Mnet if you haven't done it yet. See step 5 in http://afterschooldaze.forumotion.com/t467-discussion-how-to-vote-for-pledis-girls-on-produce-101 for how to register facebook and twitter with Mnet.
4) Use those 4 accounts to vote(takes about 5 minutes a day) for a Pledis girl according to the schedule below:
Vote for Pinky: 9:00 am KST 26 March - 8:59 am KST 27th March
Vote for Nayoung: 9:00 am KST 27th March - 8:59 am KST 28th March
Vote for Eunwoo: 9:00 am KST 28th March - 8:59 am KST 29th March
Vote for Pinky: 9:00 am KST 29th March - 8:59 am KST 30th March
Vote for Nayoung: 9:00 am KST 30th March - 8:59 am KST 31th March
Vote for Eunwoo: 9:00 am KST 31th March - 10:59 am KST 1st April
5) Get 6,546 people to help vote.
6) Participate in the project polls to help track project progress.
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Re: [Discussion] Project to Save Pledis Girls

Post by PlayboyzAdam on Sun Mar 13, 2016 1:17 pm

I just want to clarify that I'm counting today as the first voting day of the week(even those that's not the case) for voting because this is the start of the project so today we are going to vote for Pinky. Keep an eye on this thread so as I'll be frequently updating it.

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Post by PlayboyzAdam on Mon Mar 14, 2016 9:54 am

Today (i.e. 09:00 am (KST) 14/03/2016 to 08:59 am (KST) 15/03/2016) we are voting for Nayoung. There is still about an hour left to vote for Pinky after which I'll close poll 4(i.e. the Pinky voting poll). After you've finish voting for Nayoung today please participate in poll 5(i.e. Nayoung's poll). See link to project for the polls

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Re: [Discussion] Project to Save Pledis Girls

Post by PlayboyzAdam on Mon Mar 14, 2016 11:09 am

I just found out that the same phone number can be use to receive the confirmation code of multiple twitter and facebook accounts during the registration of those accounts.

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Re: [Discussion] Project to Save Pledis Girls

Post by PlayboyzAdam on Mon Mar 14, 2016 11:24 am

Pinky received a total of 56 votes for yesterday's voting day(09:00 am KST 13/03/2016 to 08:59 am KST 14/03/2016) from this project...from me Sad but at least I know there are fans that are voting that are not participating in this project Very Happy

P.S You know that you don't need 30 twitter and facebook accounts to participate in this project right? Although 30 twitter and facebook accounts is just a goal we need to achieve. You can participate in this project even if you only have 1 account to vote with throughout the duration of the project. The advantage of participating in this project is that it's a means of coordinating our efforts to help the Pledis girls and this project allows us to track how effective our efforts are.

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Re: [Discussion] Project to Save Pledis Girls

Post by PlayboyzAdam on Mon Mar 14, 2016 10:39 pm

I just heard the news from @teampd101 that the next eliminate for Produce 101 will happen during episode 10 so that means we still have 2 more episodes to ensure that Pledis girls don't get eliminated. For this round of eliminations 18 girls will get eliminated and 17 girls will remain.

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Re: [Discussion] Project to Save Pledis Girls

Post by PlayboyzAdam on Tue Mar 15, 2016 10:26 am

Today (i.e. 09:00 am KST 15/03/2016 to 08:59 am KST 16/03/2016) we are voting for Eunwoo. There is still about half an hour left to vote for Nayoung after which I'll close poll 5(i.e. the Nayoung voting poll). After you've finish voting for Eunwoo please participate in poll 6(i.e. Eunwoo's poll).

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Re: [Discussion] Project to Save Pledis Girls

Post by PlayboyzAdam on Tue Mar 15, 2016 11:07 am

Nayoung received a total of 57 votes from yesterday's voting day(09:00 am KST 14/03/2016 to 08:59 am KST 15/03/2016) from this project.

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Re: [Discussion] Project to Save Pledis Girls

Post by PlayboyzAdam on Wed Mar 16, 2016 10:24 am

Today (i.e. 09:00 am KST 16/03/2016 to 08:59 am KST 17/03/2016) we are voting for Siyeon. There is still about half an hour left to vote for Eunwoo after which I'll close poll 6(i.e. the Eunwoo voting poll). After you've finish voting for Siyeon please participate in poll 7(i.e. Siyeon's poll).

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Post by PlayboyzAdam on Wed Mar 16, 2016 11:03 am

Eunwoo received a total of 57 votes from yesterday's voting day(09:00 am KST 15/03/2016 to 08:59 am KST 16/03/2016) from this project.

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Post by PlayboyzAdam on Thu Mar 17, 2016 10:38 am

Today (i.e. 09:00 am KST 17/03/2016 to 08:59 am KST 18/03/2016) we are voting for Yebin. There is still about half an hour left to vote for Siyeon after which I'll close poll 7(i.e. the Siyeon voting poll). After you've finish voting for Yebin please participate in poll 8(i.e. Yebin's poll).

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Post by PlayboyzAdam on Thu Mar 17, 2016 11:09 am

Siyeon received a total of 57 votes from yesterday's voting day(09:00 am KST 16/03/2016 to 08:59 am KST 17/03/2016) from this project.

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Re: [Discussion] Project to Save Pledis Girls

Post by PlayboyzAdam on Fri Mar 18, 2016 12:26 pm

Today (i.e. 09:00 am KST 18/03/2016 to 08:59 am KST 19/03/2016) we are voting for the 3 lower rank girls i.e. Eunwoo, Siyeon and Yebin. After voting for them please participate in polls 9, 10, and 11.

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Re: [Discussion] Project to Save Pledis Girls

Post by PlayboyzAdam on Sat Mar 19, 2016 11:22 am

From this project Yebin received 22 votes, Siyeon received 22 votes and Enuwoo received 17 votes for yesterday (09:00 am KST 18/03/2016 to 08:59 am KST 19/03/2016). The voting period is now over and I think next week will be an elimination episode, not much we can do right now except hope of the best the for the girls.

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Re: [Discussion] Project to Save Pledis Girls

Post by intrepid on Sat Mar 19, 2016 4:39 pm

Honestly looking at the numbers Yebin is a lost cause and she really needed her team to win to be in contention and Siyeon while in a much better position would have to suddenly get a 100,000 more votes than what she is currently getting to last the next elimination, Pinky I think is safe and Nayoung while at the cutoff is nearly 200,000 votes above the 12th place so she isn’t doing too bad but still has to be careful; if you want to be tactical about the voting then we should concentrate on Eunwoo because she is high enough to survive the next elimination and still be in contention if we can convert the Yebin/Siyeon votes to her.
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Re: [Discussion] Project to Save Pledis Girls

Post by PlayboyzAdam on Sat Mar 19, 2016 11:55 pm

intrepid wrote:if you want to be tactical about the voting then we should concentrate on Eunwoo because she is high enough to survive the next elimination and still be in contention if we can convert the Yebin/Siyeon votes to her.
@intrepid from a tactical point of view you are correct and that thought has always been at the back of my mind but sometimes it's not always about winning. Both Siyeon and Yebin have worked hard and deserves our support. Look at it from their perspective and think about how it'll feel if their fan stop helping them because their fans feel the have no chance of winning. Even if they have very little chance of making it pass the next elimination we should still support them to the best of our ability...likewise, we should also show our support to Pinky and Nayoung for the same reason even though they don't need our help. It doesn't matter right now as the voting period is close and I think the next episode will be an elimination round... For the next round of voting, maybe we'll change things up and do as you said and focus on Eunwoo however I don't think we should totally eliminate support for Pinky and Nayoung, just vote for them a lot less. If Siyeon and Yebin do make it to the pass the next elimination I proposal that we up our support for them too, what really needs to happen is that we get more people participating in this project. I'm sure there's enough international active Pledis fans to help make this project succeed and I know for a fact that there is enough active international Plagirlz/Playboyz to make to at least give all 5 Pledis girls a good chance of making to the top 11. Here's how the math works, from the petition we know there's about 6,546 active Playgirlz/Playboyz and there 7 voting days per voting period. If every one of those 6,546 fans spent about an hour each day for 7 days voting 30 times a day than that gives us a total of 1374660 votes we can distribute to the Pledis girls. Say we only distribute those 1374660 votes between Eunwoo, Siyeon and Yebin because Pinky and Nayoung doesn't need our help than Eunwoo, Siyeon and Yebin each get an extra 458220 votes each...hmm in this scenario Nayoung will get kicked out of the top 11 but I think with so much contestant eliminated, Nayoung will get more votes so I think she will be fine at the end however Eunwoo, Siyeon and Yebin need our help....OK if Eunwoo, Siyeon and Yebin all make it pass the next elimination I propose that we vote for only these 3(this doesn't feel right) and if only Eunwoo make it pass the next elimination than we only vote for Eunwoo...as for Pinky and Nayoung, I guess we'll just support them with our hearts Sad ...none of this really matters if we don't get sufficient participants to help out with the project but I'll still carry on with the project regardless.

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Re: [Discussion] Project to Save Pledis Girls

Post by PlayboyzAdam on Sat Mar 26, 2016 3:26 am

Just finished watching Produce 101 and Siyeon and Yebin got eliminated Sad

#9 Nayoung
#19 Pinky
#21 Eunwoo
#25 Siyeon
#29 Yebin

Everyone was surprise to see that Pinky(who remained within the top 11 for all the other weeks) drop to #19 and she trended on Naver. At least Nayoung is still within the top 11 and this episode reveal that Pinky was vote by the contestants as #1 for best trainee. Since the voting system has changed to one vote only the amount of votes the contestants are receiving is considerably less. Somi got first place with 380,783 votes which makes our goal to help the remaining Pledis girls much more easier. So what now, should we concentrate on Nayoung because she is still within the top 11? Should we concentrate on both Nayoung and Pinky because Pinky's vote might go back up? Hang on, Let's do some math to figure out what it'll take to help all the remaining Pledis girls to win. Let's say with try to help Pinking Nayoung and Eunwoo get an extra 400,000 votes to ensure they win. We have about 7 day(about 12 hours less actually) to get a total of 400,000 votes for each of the girls that makes a total of 1,200,000 votes and since this needs to be done within 7 days 1,200,000/7=171,428 votes a day. I've previously noted that there were 6,546 fans that signed that petition and if all those fans voted 261 times a day we can be pretty sure that all the Pledis girls will make it to the top 3...this isn't realistically going to happen...OK let me think again...

Instead of trying to guarantee the remaining Pledis girls a place in the top 11. Let's do something to give them a good change to making it with the top 11. How about we try to get enough votes so that they've got a good change to making it to #9, 10 and 11. Nayoung made it to #9 with 48110 votes. So doing the same calculation as was previously done with Somi's 380,783 votes, this means that it'll only take 4 to vote a day for 7 days(assuming those 6000+ people that signed the petition help with the project) then we can give the remaining Pledis girls a chance to make it to the top 11. Next weeks episode is the last episode, hopefully we can help them out this time...for now that's the basis for the plan. I'll go into more detail about the plan tomorrow and hopefully someone will join this discussion to discuss it with me.

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Re: [Discussion] Project to Save Pledis Girls

Post by intrepid on Sat Mar 26, 2016 10:45 am

I’m going to be brutally honest again and point out the obvious, if you really want your votes to count then pick the member you know can benefit over the one that will probably fall.

I haven’t yet watched the last episode but as I predicted both Yebin and Siyeon are out, either one needed their team to win those extra votes to last and well that didn’t happen so let’s look at who’s left.

Nayoung despite not winning extra votes went up from 11th to 9th place so she must have a very good fan base so while I wouldn’t say she’s “safe” she’s still pretty much as safe as you could be, Eunwoo only just made it past the elimination as I hoped but now I don’t think she can make the top 11 from where she is unless they are rewarding a huge bonus points for next week for her to win, Pinky on the other hand has always been consistent despite her huge drop out of the top 11, despite her position at 19 I think she is the one everyone should concentrate their votes for because I think she’s the only one that has a chance to bounce back up.

This may sound cruel to Eunwoo to not vote for her but if you try to please everyone in the end you please nobody, don’t split your votes like you tried to do last time because it clearly didn’t work, save the person you can and morn the one you can’t but be satisfied you can save one and not loose both!
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Post by PlayboyzAdam on Sat Mar 26, 2016 4:19 pm

intrepid wrote:I’m going to be brutally honest again and point out the obvious, if you really want your votes to count then pick the member you know can benefit over the one that will probably fall.
@intrepid are you talking to all the readers, to me or are you talking to all participate of the project? Since I'm the only one that's been voting in the project I guess the question comes down to are you talking to the all readers or just me. There's 6 more days(including today) to vote and over these 6 days I can provide a total of 342 votes to a specific girl or I can try to evenly distribute it to all 3 girls. I want to pick a specific girl to help out and with the way things are I'll probably pick Nayoung however Pinky has a good chance of making in back to the top 11 so I'm not sure what to do. I'm afraid if I pick the wrong girl I can't help out the other one that has more of a chance to win. If all the people that signed that petition spent about 5 minutes a day to vote for 4 times for one person then they've all got a fair chance of making it to the top 11 but I'll be brutally honest, this fandom is never that cooperative and so that will never happen...doesn't stop me from trying to make it happened. Since I'm basically the only one that is actually participating in this project(well, from the twitter polls I'm the only one that's been voting) I'm going to propose and carry out the plan to try can get all the remaining girls to the top 11 however if there is lots of fans that want to vote for a specific girl(contact me or note it in this discussion) then I'll change the plan to vote for that specific girl and I'll participate in that plan as well. What's most important for a plan so succeed is that there is enough willing participate to achieve the goal and so if there is sufficient participant to make at least one of the girls make it to the top 11 then I wouldn't mind pouring my resource into that goal but as it stands right now I think we should try and get all the girls to the top 11 because we have the resource as a fandom...just not the will.

intrepid wrote:don’t split your votes like you tried to do last time because it clearly didn’t work
@intrepid if you look at the polls, the reason why the plan didn't work the last time is because I'm the only one that was voting. If you did the math then you'll see that if those those 6,546 Playgirlz/palyboyz that signed the petition participated in the project and vote at least ones a day for the specified girl then none of the Pledis girls(Siyeon, Nayoung, Eunwoo, Siyeon and Yebin) would have been eliminated last night.

intrepid wrote:save the person you can and morn the one you can’t but be satisfied you can save one and not loose both
It's a gamble on who to save, right now it's anyones guess. This fandom has it in our power to save all the remaining Pledis girls(or at least give them a good shot at winning) but whether this fandom really wants to make that happen or not is the questions. To add to the difficulty of the matter, these guys are not After School so it makes it more difficult to get this fandom to participate. I'll probably end up being the only person to actually vote(please prove me wrong) in the project.

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Re: [Discussion] Project to Save Pledis Girls

Post by PlayboyzAdam on Sat Mar 26, 2016 5:16 pm

Guys, last night Siyeon and Yebin were eliminate from Produce 101. If all the Playgirlz/Playboyz that signed that Petition for AS comeback participate in this project and voted at least once a day for the specified girl then each of the girls would have got a least an extra 13,092 votes giving,

- Nayoung 61,202 votes (putting her in 6th place)
- Pinky 32,344 votes (putting her in 14th place)
- Eunwoo 28,078 votes (putting her in 17th place)
- Siyeon 24,101 votes (putting her in 19th place)
- Yebin 19,971 votes (putting her in 22nd place)

meaning that if everyone dedicate at least one vote a day to this project then Siyeon and Yebin wouldn't have been eliminated last night but unfortunately I'm the only one that has been voting in this project(please someone tell me I read the polls wrong)...at least I know there are fans that are voting that are not participating in this project.

We have it in our power as a fandom to achieve great things and we certainly have it in us to give Pinky, Nayoung and Eunwoo a good chance of making it to the top 11...it's just that this fandom doesn't have the will to do it. It's the same story for After School, we have it in our power as a fandom to achieve great things to help out After School but this fandom doesn't have the will. What annoys me most about this fandom is that your hatred for Pledis far exceeds your willingness to help After School out(I'll write another post on that when I get the time). Wouldn't it be nice if for once this fandom cooperated together to achieve something great, to show that when After School comes back we have it in our powers to help After School win? Well, here our chance at it.

Let's make the plan easier and aim to get the girls in 9th, 10th and 11th place. Using last night's ranking as a basis to form a plan, since Nayoung made it to 9th place with 48,110 we'll try to give all the remaining Pledis girls at least 48,110 votes each. 48110*3=144330, so within the these next 6 days we need to distribute 144330 votes between the remaining 3 Pledis girls. 144330/6=24055, so we need to do 24055 votes a day. Assuming that those 6,546 people that signed that petition participates in this project then each person needs to vote 24055/6,546=3.64 vote a day to achieve this goal. So we need each person to vote 4 at least times a day to achieve this goal. Voting 4 times a day only takes about 5 minutes and getting 4 twitter accounts for voting is very easy and can be done in 1 day. You can get 5 twitter accounts using only 1 phone number to receive the twitter verification code per day. As for who to vote for,
- today(26th March) we vote for Pinky
- 27th March we vote for Nayoung
- 28th March we vote for Eunwoo
- 29th March we vote for Pinky
- 30th March we vote for nayoung
- 31th March we vote for Eunwoo

I'll summarise the plan and create polls to track progress later.

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Re: [Discussion] Project to Save Pledis Girls

Post by intrepid on Sun Mar 27, 2016 12:08 am

PlayboyzAdam wrote:
intrepid wrote:I’m going to be brutally honest again and point out the obvious, if you really want your votes to count then pick the member you know can benefit over the one that will probably fall.
@intrepid are you talking to all the readers, to me or are you talking to all participate of the project? Since I'm the only one that's been voting in the project I guess the question comes down to are you talking to the all readers or just me. There's 6 more days(including today) to vote and over these 6 days I can provide a total of 342 votes to a specific girl or I can try to evenly distribute it to all 3 girls. I want to pick a specific girl to help out and with the way things are I'll probably pick Nayoung however Pinky has a good chance of making in back to the top 11 so I'm not sure what to do. I'm afraid if I pick the wrong girl I can't help out the other one that has more of a chance to win. If all the people that signed that petition spent about 5 minutes a day to vote for 4 times for one person then they've all got a fair chance of making it to the top 11 but I'll be brutally honest, this fandom is never that cooperative and so that will never happen...doesn't stop me from trying to make it happened. Since I'm basically the only one that is actually participating in this project(well, from the twitter polls I'm the only one that's been voting) I'm going to propose and carry out the plan to try can get all the remaining girls to the top 11 however if there is lots of fans that want to vote for a specific girl(contact me or note it in this discussion) then I'll change the plan to vote for that specific girl and I'll participate in that plan as well. What's most important for a plan so succeed is that there is enough willing participate to achieve the goal and so if there is sufficient participant to make at least one of the girls make it to the top 11 then I wouldn't mind pouring my resource into that goal but as it stands right now I think we should try and get all the girls to the top 11 because we have the resource as a fandom...just not the will.

intrepid wrote:don’t split your votes like you tried to do last time because it clearly didn’t work
@intrepid if you look at the polls, the reason why the plan didn't work the last time is because I'm the only one that was voting. If you did the math then you'll see that if those those 6,546 Playgirlz/palyboyz that signed the petition participated in the project and vote at least ones a day for the specified girl then none of the Pledis girls(Siyeon, Nayoung, Eunwoo, Siyeon and Yebin) would have been eliminated last night.

intrepid wrote:save the person you can and morn the one you can’t but be satisfied you can save one and not loose both
It's a gamble on who to save, right now it's anyones guess. This fandom has it in our power to save all the remaining Pledis girls(or at least give them a good shot at winning) but whether this fandom really wants to make that happen or not is the questions. To add to the difficulty of the matter, these guys are not After School so it makes it more difficult to get this fandom to participate. I'll probably end up being the only person to actually vote(please prove me wrong) in the project.

I was speaking to you and anyone else that may read this about the voting and I don’t believe that you are going to get the participation from AS fans needed to make any significant impact; I might not get angry like you do at the laziness of our fandom but I do share your complete lack of faith in them. Rolling Eyes

You said you can muster 342 votes for one girl which isn’t by itself going to make much of an impact but it’s still significant if more people join in and I’ve already voted for Pinky today so a small increase at least; I think you are being too ambitious trying to support “all” the remaining girls and still believe a surgical strike to help one is more achievable than trying to help everyone thus decreasing the impact you might otherwise achieve but that’s your decision to make not mine.
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Post by PlayboyzAdam on Sun Mar 27, 2016 12:00 pm

intrepid wrote:I don’t believe that you are going to get the participation from AS fans needed to make any significant impact
@intrepid, considering the negative things you've seen me say about this fandom it shouldn't surprise you that I doubt this fandom really cares enough to really put in the effort to help out.

intrepid wrote:I might not get angry like you do at the laziness of our fandom but I do share your complete lack of faith in them.
@intrepid I not actually angry at them for their laziness, just disappointed that we have a chance to come together to support the girls that are representing Pledis family and we really can make a difference in helping them but the support I'm seeing for the Pledis girls is just like that for After School. What I'm actually angry at is that 6000+ fans signed a petition to demand an After School comeback and I've never   seen 6000+ fan care enough for After School to support ASDaze or my projects. I can identify that some of the fans that signed the petition are true hardcore/die hard fans but my impression is that the vast majority are fans that want After School to comeback, take them for grant and leave them for dead.

intrepid wrote:I think you are being too ambitious trying to support “all” the remaining girls and still believe a surgical strike to help one is more achievable than trying to help everyone thus decreasing the impact you might otherwise achieve but that’s your decision to make not mine.
@intrepid I'm not being too ambition. I just don't want to place all my bets on one girls. Before the last elimination round I would have bet on Pinky but since she placed 19th it'ss kinda hard to be certain. Like I said, if enough fans want to change the plan to only vote for one girl e.g. Pinky then I'll change the plan to do so as it'll at least guarantee that Pinky win however just about no one cares about this project and everyone is doing their own thing(not really a problem if they are voting but we need a coordinate approach)...although I think a couple of fan are interested in this project, they've just been having trouble voting. If at the end of the day, I'm the only one that's going to be voting for this project I'm going to evenly distribute my votes among all the Pledis girls not because I'm ambitious(I'm well aware my efforts alone amount to next to nothing) but because I don't have sufficient data to guarantee that betting on any particular girl will give her the win and then if my vote could have went to a girl that could have won but I picked the wrong girl then I'm going to feel pretty bad. It's more comforting to me(and I'm sure to the girls as well) that I thank them for their hard work by voting for them evenly and then blame this fandom like I do for their lack of support for After School if the girls lose...well actually I can't really blame this fandom because I'm requesting that they support Pledis girls and Pledis girls is not After School...this is why I'm not angry, just disappointed at this fandom.

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Post by PlayboyzAdam on Fri Apr 01, 2016 9:29 pm

I sure hope that SMS voting isn't worth more points than online voting because I've got a new SIM card for my phone and I've activated online but it can take about 48 hours to finish and it still isn't finished yet so I can SMS vote Sad

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Post by PlayboyzAdam on Sat Apr 02, 2016 3:55 am

Just finished waiting final episode of Produce 101 and cheers Pinky(6th) and Nayoung(10th) made it...but not Eunwoo Sad

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