[DISCUSSION]Official A midsummer night's sweetness discussion thread

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Re: [DISCUSSION]Official A midsummer night's sweetness discussion thread

Post by PlayboyzAdam on Fri Aug 07, 2015 2:51 am

intrepid wrote:A midsummer night's sweetness was published on Jun 11, 2014 so to Just update this thread this is what AMSNS been doing in 2015 in digital downloads....
@intrepid, thanks for posting that. Cool, it looks like on average the digital download sales for AMNS is actually continuously increasing since it first came out. If you have time, can you please also post a compilation of the weekly streaming sales like what you did for digital downloads?

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Re: [DISCUSSION]Official A midsummer night's sweetness discussion thread

Post by intrepid on Fri Aug 07, 2015 10:53 am

PlayboyzAdam wrote:
intrepid wrote:A midsummer night's sweetness was published on Jun 11, 2014 so to Just update this thread this is what AMSNS been doing in 2015 in digital downloads....
@intrepid, thanks for posting that. Cool, it looks like on average the digital download sales for AMNS is actually continuously increasing since it first came out. If you have time, can you please also post a compilation of the weekly streaming sales like what you did for digital downloads?

A Midsummers Night’s Sweetness had 75,015,728 streams in 2014 and was #4 overall.
2015-
Jan 2,996,527
Feb 2,633,780
Mar 3,049,916
Apr 2,873,823
May 3,840,139
Jun 4,191,004
Jul 4,348,556
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Re: [DISCUSSION]Official A midsummer night's sweetness discussion thread

Post by intrepid on Fri Aug 07, 2015 11:20 am

PlayboyzAdam wrote:This post is just to answer fans asking how I did my calculations for AMSN earning that I posted on twitter. I think I mistakenly posted that it  was for digital downloads on twitter. It was actually for streaming.

The first thing to note is that I said those earning don't take expenses into consideration (i.e. promotion cost, training, practice, distribution e.t.c) and these numbers are for figuring out the maximum Pledis could possibly earn.

My calculations are based on $7.99(USD I think...see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qku6P2_Ffts) 30 day MelOn streaming pass. To work out the maxium Pledis and Raina could possibly earn we assume that streaming passes used to listen to AMSN are only used to listen to AMSN(otherwise other artist could get some of that money) and we assume that the streaming passes are used to perform 1 stream a day(streaming the song more than once a day lowers the price of each streaming per day). With all that settled then one streaming of the song gives them a maximum of 26 cent (i.e. 7.99/30=0.266...).

Looking at the Gaon chart updates from intrepid(see posts from above) you'll see that lately Raina has been getting about 1,000,000 streamings per week. I've check Gaon and he's correct. So 1,000,000*$0.26 = $260000(i.e. AMSN is bringing into Pledis, Raina, Brand New Music and San E a total of $260000 per weekly.) Left assume that the earning from AMSN is split in 50/50 between Pledis and Brand New Music that means that Pledis gets a maxium of $130000. Of course Raina get some of that money too but I don't know how much and how much Raina earns  is irrelevant right now because all this is to figure out the MAXIMUM of what Pledis could possibly earn. The figure I posted on twitter was per month and since there is about 4 weeks in a month then Pledis gets a maximum of about  4*$130000=$520000 per month.

OK, let's discuss the accuracy of that estimation,

If you've been keeping track then one of the most important things to notice about the math is that if the streaming pass is used multiple times a day then that lowers the final result.

I only use used the $7.99/30 day stream pass because that'll give Pledis the most money but it's possible that fans bought a different pass that give Pledis less.

I only used the MelOn prices because that'll all I know but the Gaon streaming chart give a cumulative total of streaming across other music service providers too(e.g. Soribada).

As I've already stated, those calculation doesn't take expense into consideration(e.g. music service provider fees) so the reality is that Pledis is probably earning a lot less.

I'm actually glad that fans have enquire about how I got those figures because the fandom has an annoying habbit of listening to any crap that anyone says and that's caused problems.

If someone says something please don't just take their words for it...with that said

‏@puretoria(on twitter), where did you get the information from that psy only made $61k from gangnam style thru digital sales in korea? Also how do you know labels can get as little as 30 won per download? You're probably right  but unless you provided actually references or explain those figure I don't believe them...I trying to emphasis on a point here, I hope you guys are getting it.

EDIT: it is made very clear that people don't understand the purpose of me writing that part of this post we I discuss the accuracy of my estimation so I'll see if I can say it in a way where you can hopeffy understand THERE IS NO WAY PLEDIS CAN MAKE $520000 BECAUSE AS I'VE STATE OVER AND OVER THAT THIS ESTIMATION DO NOT TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION OF EXPENSES.

The purpose of that figure is to get an idea of what Pledis can possibly get regardless of how accurate it is because I don't pretend to know things I don't know unlike some sources.

This might help with your calulations http://musicstreamingindex.com/
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Re: [DISCUSSION]Official A midsummer night's sweetness discussion thread

Post by PlayboyzAdam on Fri Aug 07, 2015 7:33 pm

intrepid wrote:A Midsummers Night’s Sweetness had 75,015,728 streams in 2014 and was #4 overall.
2015-
Jan 2,996,527
Feb 2,633,780
Mar 3,049,916
Apr 2,873,823
May 3,840,139
Jun 4,191,004
Jul 4,348,556
@intrepid cool it looks like AMNS streaming sales is actually increasing since the start of this year. So far this year the total streaming comes to 23933745 so it doesn't look like AMNS is going to do as well as it did last year in terms of streams.

intrepid wrote:This might help with your calulations http://musicstreamingindex.com/
@intrepid, thanks for that. The site doesn't list Korean streaming services..nor does if state where it got its info from but let's play around with the info that site provides and see if we can get an idea of what Pledis might be getting. So far from Gaon, AMNS streaming totals to 75,015,728+23,933,745 = 98,949,473. Let's just say Xbox provided the streaming service for all those sales then Pledis gets $0.0770 per stream(for the 1st of april) so in total Pledis would get $7,619,109.421 USD  Shocked ...HOLY... that's a lot of money(note this is just what Pledis get's from XBOX but it doesn't include expense other than the fee Pledis gives to Xbox). Let's pick the lowest paying streaming service provided for 1st of August i.e. Rhapsody than Pledis gets 98,949,473*0.0101 = $999389.6773 USD...that's a pretty big difference between Xbox and Rhapsody although both are pretty big numbers.

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Re: [DISCUSSION]Official A midsummer night's sweetness discussion thread

Post by intrepid on Thu Aug 13, 2015 3:32 pm

A Midsummer Night’s Sweetness is down 14 places and is #88 in the Digital Charts for the period 02/08/15 - 08/08/15 and down 13 places in the Digital Download chart at #93 with 18,917 downloads, In the Streaming charts it’s up 1 position at #65 with 991,132 streams and its dropped back out of the Mobile Charts.

In GAON’s 2015 first half-year closing Digital Chart AMSNS is currently at #93, In the Digital Downloads it’s at #81 with 339,802 downloads, In the Streaming Chart it’s at #70 with 19,585,189 streams; I’m just wondering what it would be at if San E and Raina were to do a limited promotion of this song again.
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Re: [DISCUSSION]Official A midsummer night's sweetness discussion thread

Post by PlayboyzAdam on Sat Aug 15, 2015 11:41 am

@intrepid keep an eye on those streaming sales figures for AMNS because and let's see if we can increase them Very Happy

This is so a fun performance Very Happy

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Re: [DISCUSSION]Official A midsummer night's sweetness discussion thread

Post by intrepid on Thu Aug 20, 2015 4:40 pm

A Midsummer Night’s Sweetness is down 3 places and is #91 in the Digital Charts for the period 09/08/15 - 15/08/15 and up 6 places in the Digital Download chart to #87 with 17,658 downloads, In the Streaming charts it’s down 2 positions at #67 with 980,387 streams.
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Re: [DISCUSSION]Official A midsummer night's sweetness discussion thread

Post by PlayboyzAdam on Fri Aug 21, 2015 5:52 pm

intrepid wrote:In the Streaming charts it’s down 2 positions at #67 with 980,387 streams.
@intrepid, dang I was going to try and help increase those sale...don't really have much time for anything these days.

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Re: [DISCUSSION]Official A midsummer night's sweetness discussion thread

Post by intrepid on Thu Aug 27, 2015 4:58 pm

A Midsummer Night’s Sweetness is no-longer charting in the Digital Charts for the period 16/08/15 - 22/08/15 and is also no-longer in the Digital Download Charts but since it’s last position was #87 with 17,658 downloads and considering that the current #100 position has 18,499 downloads it reasonable to assume it hasn’t dropped off in sales too much from the previous week and may still pop back in a week or two given its so far stable sales; In the Streaming charts it’s down 9 positions at #76 with 892,872 streams.
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Post by intrepid on Thu Sep 03, 2015 5:47 pm

A Midsummer Night’s Sweetness is still no-longer charting in either the Digital or the Download Charts for the period 23/08/15 - 29/08/15 and in the Streaming charts it’s down 18 positions to #94 with 733,576 streams.
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Re: [DISCUSSION]Official A midsummer night's sweetness discussion thread

Post by intrepid on Thu Sep 10, 2015 5:36 pm

For the month of August AMSNS position in the Digital Chart was #98 down 23 positions on the previous month in the Digital Download Chart it dropped 19 positions to #93 with 76,505 downloads and its total Streams was down 19 positions to #79 with 3,950,334 streams for the month.
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Re: [DISCUSSION]Official A midsummer night's sweetness discussion thread

Post by PlayboyzAdam on Fri Sep 11, 2015 2:58 am

^Dammit, AMNS keeps dropping in sales.

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Re: [DISCUSSION]Official A midsummer night's sweetness discussion thread

Post by intrepid on Thu Sep 17, 2015 6:39 pm

AMSNS is out of the Streaming Charts but still did 639,116 streams for the period 06/09/15 – 12/09/15. Sad
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